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by Rama.
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rama@emailbox.att.com (Ramarao Kanneganti) wrote:
>
>In article <MAPI.Id.0016.00616468617661204636423030303030@MAPI.to.
RFC822> madhava@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (Madhava Kumar Turumella)
writes:
>> Thanks for all of you for your educative articles on avadhAnam.
>> Here is my contribution to the topic :
>>
>> avadhanam should be taken in its total perspective. Avadhani can
>> hardly get any chance to show his poetic talent in dattapadi and
>> nishiddhAkshari like subjects. We can hardly expect any poetic
>> expression when the pruccakka comes up and asks,
>> "use EMSET LAWSET BEDSET GOODSET bla.. bla.. bla.. and tell me
>> one poem in Bharatardha".
>
>Sad, but true. After attending a poem, I get this empty, gnawing
feeling in my
>stomach (most often from hunger:-)). I never come back with a single
example
>of a good poetry I can remember. After attending sufficent number
(close to
>half a dozen), I felt that it is truly mental gymnastics and has
nothing to do
>with poetry.
>
>> [Why avadhaanam does not give a chance to pure poetry?
Explanation
>> deleted].
>
>I agree, avadhanam as a poetic technique is way overrated. I would
go so far
>as to say it deserves to die since it stifles other creative forms.
>
>> What else is left out, is ASuvu and varNana. In these aMSAs we
>> can expect poetic talent and expression. I have observed that
>> avadhanis like Sri Madasani and Madugula never disappointed the
>> pruccakka in these aspects.
>
>Hmm... I have attended one of the gentlemen's avadhaanams and have
never failed
>to be disappointed.
>
>> In my opinion "avadhanis are born poets with very high
intellectual
>> calibre". But, by ristricting them to some chosen words we are
>> unable to comprehend the poetic potential in them.
>
>Intellectual calibre does not translate well into poetry. It takes
flights of
>imagination and a little dose of humility and a pinch of
consideration towards
>the listeners that makes a great poetry. [Hey, don't take it as a
definition!
>I, of course, will be glad to provide one, if you send a SASE].
>
>> I was given a chance to participate as a pruccaka and I have
chosen
>> "ASuvu". Because, I felt that by participating in things like
>> the dattapadi, nishiddhakshari, samasyapuraNa I can not enjoy
>> the poetic beauty of Sri Medasani.
>>
>> I have asked the ASuvu, he had not disappointed me, I enjoyed
>> a beautiful composition on Lord Siva.
>
>Let me tell you about the lack of imagination on the part of this
>gentleman. Last TANA, he was asked to describe the dance
competetions being
>held for TANA. After producing a stock poem how great it was, he
confessed to
>not seeing it at all!! That is the state of Telugu poetry. Every
woman is a
>'nava javvani' and every face is a full moon and every ... you get
the
>trend. When you didn't see a dance, you basically rehash the
descriptions
>from old books and produce it. And, people will marvel at your
poetic powers!!
>[It is all right if they marvel about your control over words; we
all know
>poetry is beyond words alone.]
>
>> One can not believe that a beautiful (Yes! na bhootO
nabhavishyati)
>> varNana on NrusiMha was told in one of the SatAvadhanaMs of
>> brahmaSri Veluri Sivarama Satry garu :
>>
>> prouDhArka dyuti kOTi pATala saTA riMchOLi kAbhAsurO
>> nirghA tadyuti bhirnakhaiH prakaTi tApArOllasa dvikramaH
>> daitva vrAtalibhOH hiraNya kaSipOdhyaksha sthalee bhaMja kO
>> lakshee jAni rudrAra dheera vatunaH Sree nArasiMha prabhuH ||
>>
>> iMta gaMbheeramaina, proudhamaina varNana mari iMkekkaDA manaku
>> kanabaDadu. avadhAnAlalO kavitvaM kanabaDadanE "apavAdu"ku Sri
Sastry
>> gAru piDugudebba koTTAru.
>
>I guess, our understanding on what poetry differs. But I find this
poem insipid
>and extravagently empty. Please, no digs about me not enjoying the
classical
>poetry. I have studied sanskrit for over five years. I enjoy tikkana,
>nannechOda, pOtana, molla, chEmakoora. Each one them try to reinvent
poetry
>and rescue it from the gutters it was flowing in.
>
>> If you want to enjoy Sri Medasani Mohan's poetic talent please
>> read his "purushOttama cakravarti" padya kAvyaM. It is really
>> a good poetry book. So far it is not yet published as a book.
>> I heard that he is going to visit USA, ask him you may get it.
>>
>> ika SrISrI garaMTArA "neekoka sigareTTistA nAkoka Satakammu rASi
>> nayamuga nimmA", aMTE AdurdAgA SatakaM rASina "mahAkavi".
>
>Is it better to write the satakam for a place next to the king? Or
for an air
>ticket? The pay off is not what matters here. How it was written is
what
>matters. Incidentally, Sri Sri knows kandam like Bo knows football.
>
>> "avadhAnaM cooDalEkapOyAnu kAnee... dommarivALLa ATa cooSAnani,
anaDaM
>> AyanakE celliMdi!". SrISrI, tApI, raai etc.. people are really
great
>> intellectuals. I always wonder why at some aspects they go
against
>> and make weird comments! This reminds me the song :
>
>What an apt description! At a mental level, that is what avadhaanam
is!! A
>mental gymnastics!! No slur against the dommarivaaLLu intended.
>
>>
>> Regards
>> -Madhava-
>
>By the way, I do understand your tastes can differ. I am merely
putting on the
>phospher what I find distasteful about avadhaanam.
>
>Regards,
>Rama
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>
>Rama Kanneganti
>rama@emailbox.att.com