Re: svEccha - uniki

Subbarao Varigonda (varigond@cems.umn.edu)
Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:48:50 -0600 (CST)


Hi!

Your explanation brought in a great sense to the whole thing.

> Certainly.  But as you said, I understood it is not evident. It means I am
> not yet perfect in driving the ponit home. In short, it is 'chemical
> philosophy of society'.

I see some relation with the discussion between Sri vElUri-Pillalamarri(chanda
as a bandha) and vElUri-Nagulapally (Feynman's Physics).

I wonder why you didn't include some vacana between poems to make the
logic clearer. Not that you must use vacana for clarity. we can explain
with even more connecting poems. If you use vacana for one or two line
explanation, the combination is ideal because poems emphasize your 
analogies and vacana explain the transition between different points you had
to say.  
(After reading your explanations somebody may say, "see! you explained
more clearly in vacana than in poems". I am trying to prevent such a thing
with this.)

Such a chemical philosophy inspired by nature is really observed at other places
too! 

Nagulapally's Feynman's quote is on similar lines. Even on atomic and
subatomic scales or at cosmic scale, nature is intriguing and inspiring.
There is a different kind of beauty when you break or integrate things in
science.

> poems. So, 'svEccha' got to have a sense of the 'law and order'. If so,
Using the same word 'svEccha' for freedom,law and order, ego etc is 
confusing unless you explicitly explain.  

Some of the points are 'chemically' disputable! But, I think that's tolerable.

Ex: When compounds are formed, the elements don't really lose their IDENTITY.
    They may lose some of their aspects and gain new ones. But oxygen exists
    in water too. May be we can say, oxygen loses 'ego'!
    
> Indeed, it is the same for every 'compound' in nature, as the 'elements'
> that form the 'compound',  lose their original identity at the end (They
> get a new identity, but do not retain the original one). If one imagines
> 'oxygen' as an egoistic person, who doesn't want to lose freedom/identity,
> one can't expect all  essential 'water' to be formed.  I attempted to bring
> out the same for humans also in these poems, with reference to
> 'identity/ego'.
> 

> >But you must be knowing that
> >A.ve.  Aksijanuku mIru haiDrOjanungalpa
> >          visphulinga mokaTi vEya kunna
> >          udaka mIya bOdu  utkRshTa mUgAdu
> >          idi rasAyanAna chadivi yunTi!
> 
> Exactly. But when this process of combination is extrapolated to
> humans/society, the 'visphulinga' of water-forming Chemistry' is nothing
> but the 'magnanimity' of the persons involved, which makes the persons
> sacrifice the 'identity/ego' and mingle with someone, in order to gain
> 'something new' in the interest of the public.

i would like to interpret 'visphulinga' differently. It's neither in oxygen
nor in hydrgen. It's something different from these that causes them unite.
So, it's  like a 'spark of j~nAna' from other sources a guru (no laghu:-) ) 
or whatever that stimulates and enlightens the 'egoistic' or 'ignorant'
mind. That's knowledge. That's consciousness. That's energy. That's what
you don't have from the elements before the reaction. But after the reaction,
the 'enlightened' is another source/sink(storehouse) of energy. 
(Rxn produces/consumes energy). The visphulinga is the activation energy
of the rxn. 


> Afterall, I honestly feel that this is the major lesson that 'nature'
> silently has been  teaching the humans for ages, but unfortunately only a
> few are learning and implementing it. Chemically speaking, the very human
> body itself is nothing but the combination of various elements, which lose
> their 'identity' in the process. If all of them claim their own 'identity',
> can human (life) exist? Perhaps, that is what death can be described as.
> 
> With regards,
> Prabhakar Vissavajjhala

Prof. Susarla Dakshinamuri(first name ?) at Dept of Chemical Engg,
Andhra University has very interesting compositions like this.
His sons were with me at IITK and they showed me some. If I can get them
now, I will post them here.

Here are a few lines from one of my uncompleted kavita. (Just to note
the similarity in thought) 

On Dynamism:

parama ushNam sunna kAdu prakRteppuDu parugu dIstundi
gAli kaNamulu kshaNamu ainA kadalakunDA nilici yunTAyA?
paina sthabdata kaligi yunnaa, parama aNuvulu prakampistAyi
niScalatvamu kAdu satyamu nitya SOdhanayE!

mUgajIvula kaina gAni manasu lOpala palukucunTundi
kAlameppuDu kshaNamu kUDaa kadalakunDA AgananTundi.

The implication is: the universe is dynamic.

regards,
vari


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