tsa, za

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Hi, As fas as I know, three Indian languages have tsa-za sound: kashmiri, 
telugu and marathi.  In Telugu, the rules (sa I understand) are as 
follows: tsa-za rule applies only to acca telugu words.  for vowels a, u, o
(o is a derivative of a and u according to guNa saMdhi!) only this rule 
applies.  eg: tsali, tsaalu, tsukka, tsuupu, tsoMga, tsOTu
              zannamu, zaali, zunnu, zuulu, zonna, zOla
Even if the vowel is a, u, o, the rule does NOT apply to Sanskrit words. 
eg. jaahnavi not zaahnavi; calanamu not tsalanamu, etc. 
In olden days (see books published perhaps before fifties), this distinction 
was demonstrated as follows.  The ta ottu (as in atta) sign used to be 
placed above the letter.  eg. zaali would be written as jaali with a ta ottu 
above the letter jaa.  
tsa and za sounds are a rich heritage of the telugu language.  
These sounds are present in kannda only for the urdu words like zamin, 
zulm etc., not for regular words.  That is why it used to be funny to 
hear cine artistes like Saroja devi say cuucaaraa for tsoocaaraa!  I hope 
remember some of the older members remember it.  

As far as al sound is concerend, even in Sanskrit there are not many words 
with this letter.  The only one I remember is lupta.  By the way, al 
is pronounced here without fully stressing the u in lupta.  (lupta=without 
as in lupta suurya gaganamu).  I hope this explains some of the questions 
raised.  Regards!  -  J. K.  Mohana  Rao

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